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Recovered versus Recovering -- What's your position?

Here is a letter published in the AA Grapevine, December 1999, Vol. 56 No. 7 from an AA member who expressed confusion over the phrases "recovered" versus "recovering" alcoholic:

At several meetings lately old-timers have been saying they are "recovered alcoholics." The Big Book states: "It is easy to let up on the spiritual program of action and rest on our laurels. We are headed for trouble if we do, for alcohol is a subtle foe. We are not cured of alcoholism" (p. 85). To me, "recovered" means cured, and if I'm cured, I can drink socially and not get drunk. Doesn't saying we're "recovered" give us a false sense of security? Is this a lifelong program of recovery or is there a point at which I'm recovered? I've talked about this at several meetings, and had lengthy talks with old-timers, and now I'm totally confused. Help!

William E.
Farnham, New York

Published in the AA Grapevine, April 2000, Vol. 56 No. 11 were the responses from readers to the question of being a "recovered" alcoholic versus a "recovering" one:


Concerning "recovered" vs. "recovering," there can be no confusion if we accept the Big Book as our basic text for recovery (p. xi).

The division in AA is deeper, however, than a disagreement over two words. There are in fact two camps in AA today. The first is the message of recovery documented in the Big Book as given us by our founders. The second is the New Age message which began infiltrating our AA rooms several decades ago and has become accepted by many if not most of our members. Its roots originate in treatment centers and rehabs.

In direct contradiction to the Big Book, New Agers tell us we'll "never recover," "always be recovering," and "never get well." The message from Bill W. and the first one hundred recovered alcoholics (p. xiii) uses the word "recovered" approximately twenty-three times; "recover," twenty-eight; and "recovering," only twice, and then in the context of the newcomer.

We never become cured from the physical allergy. Once we take a drink the phenomenon of craving will be triggered. This is what it means to say "we are not cured from alcoholism" (p. 85). But once we become recovered, the mental obsession to drink is removed. The physical allergy is rather a moot point. We now do not have to take that first drink. Being recovered is conditional. We remain recovered by staying in fit spiritual condition (p. 85).

Bill F.
Hyattsville, Maryland


Is part of the difficulty with "recovered vs. recovering" a result of the mixed message I keep hearing? When I was new in AA, they said I was sick, but I could get well if I would apply the AA principles on a daily basis. By doing so, I haven't had a drink since my first meeting over sixteen-and-a-half years ago. That doesn't mean I'm cured. It does mean, however, that I can no longer blame my aberrant actions on "alcoholism," "my disease kicking in," "my alcoholic mind," or anything else.

Today, I hear that we are "always sick," with an emphasis on problems. I'm so glad I got a lot more hope than that at my first few meetings. Sometimes I have to sit and scratch my head when I hear members talking about "continuing recovering" after ten, fifteen, or twenty-plus years of sobriety. Have they never read the Big Book or taken the Steps? Have they not found a Higher Power that will solve their problem?

I believe the process continues for a lifetime; there are no vacations or breaks. I cannot do it alone and found help through God, the group, and good sponsorship. The words of hope I heard still ring loudly for me. I remain thankful that those early members had the courage to speak up for their convictions to help convince me there was a real answer to alcoholism.

Gary K.
Parker, Colorado


Having heard numerous discussions on recovering vs. recovered, I prefer to focus on a different concept: "permanent recovery," as used in the Big Book. For a vital requirement of this condition, see p. xvii.

Bill P. Gulfport, Mississippi


I believe I have an obligation to carry the unequivocal message that complete recovery from alcoholism is not only possible, but probable, provided I'm willing to go to any length to achieve it. Now for the big question: when can an AA member claim to be fully recovered? The answer to this question can be found only in the heart, soul, and conscience of the individual, and is based on the quality, not quantity, of one's sobriety. When one is recovered, one will know it. Ultimately, the great promise of AA for me is permanent recovery from alcoholism, which is contingent upon a constant state of grace being granted by my Higher Power. I can exist in this state of grace on a daily basis, and thus remain "recovered," as long as I stay surrendered to alcohol and practice the Twelve Steps in all my affairs.

Larry P.
Hudson, New Hampshire


It is my belief, and that of one of the old-timers (forty-plus years) at my home group, that at some point, we recover from the seemingly hopeless state of mind and body. This does not mean we are "cured," we are never "cured." The only solution is a daily reprieve, based on the maintenance of our spiritual condition. And we must never rest on our laurels. However, at sixteen years, I firmly consider myself recovered. Now, I can continue with the matter of living life, no longer encumbered by the swamp that I came out of. Early on, I was recovering. But through the application of the Steps, use of outside resources when needed, and the persistence taught to me early on by a man who saved my life, I am recovered!

Michael R.
Campbell, California


When I introduce myself at a meeting I simply say: "My name is Jim--and I'm an alcoholic." But when I introduce myself as a speaker, I call myself a "recovered alcoholic." The difference being, that when I'm speaking I can then readily clarify my position, and lest I forget, it leads me straight to an opportunity to express my gratitude for how God and the principles of AA have brought me from an extremely hopeless state to a place of reasonable comfort and peace.

Jim M.
Bloomington, Minnesota


I prefer the past tense of "recovered alcoholic" for a couple of reasons. First, I believe that alcoholism is what has happened in my life, not what is currently happening. During the past seven years I have had heart bypass surgery, cancer, kidney surgery, and surgical repair of an aneurysm of the aorta. And here again, I recuped in fine style from each surgery--recovered if you will--and I feel great. To imply that I am still recovering from these surgeries, as well as my alcoholism, would seem to indicate there are still problems, and problems just do not exist. Secondly, heaven forbid that I would ever give a newcomer in AA the impression that he or she would normally be experiencing problems recovering from alcoholism after twenty-nine years of not drinking. In our text book, recovered is used quite extensively, starting with the forwards to each edition and throughout all 164 pages. Bill W. wrote, "Utopia, we have it with us here and now." Utopia, would that be anything less than recovered?

Don A.
Lakeview, Arkansas


What do you think about "recovered" versus "recovering"? Send us your thoughts.


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My name is Yvon and I am a recovered alcoholic. When I was out there drinking, I blamed my alcoholism on all my life’s circumstances then for the first two years in the A.A. Fellowship, I blamed all my life circumstances on my alcoholism. Thank God and those few who carry THE message for having given me the opportunity to hear the A.A. Program and to recover. Today, I realize that, like everyone else in this big beautiful world, I suffer from “selfishness”/”self-centeredness”, not from alcoholism. For me, the problem has been removed. As long as I continue to Trust God, Clean House and Help Others, I will never again have to deal with the bottle which is but a symptom of the root of our human problem. Being a “recovered” alcoholic levels the playing field for me. It reminds me that after 24 years without taking a drink, I can no longer blame the bottle or my allergy to its content. By the way, I’m allergic to bananas too but I do not recall having ever blamed any of my problems on that one! LOL

“Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not...”
# Posted By Yvon Piche, Espanola, Ontario | 1/20/10 8:21 AM
This question is probably best answered by each individual member according to his/her belief in a power greater than ourselves that restores us to sanity...

I agree there is no cure for the physical allergy; but the book was written to precisely show us how others have recovered (paraphrasing foreword to the first edition)...I am a recovered alcoholic because: I know, without a doubt, that I can never have a drink like "normal" people...I have found and completely abandoned myself to a Higher Power which has restored my sanity by giving me a sense of usefulness and purposefulness in my life...

"Burn the idea into the consciousness of every man that he can get well regardless of anyone. The only condition is that he trust God and clean house" (AA Big Book, p98, Working With Others)
# Posted By Juan-B, Miami, FL | 1/20/10 9:33 AM
Never thought about this before but I really do like the idea of saying 'recovered' and of course that I will stay 'recovered' based on maintaining a fit spiritual condition. It somehow sounds so much more POSITIVE! Yes! I like that. I think I'm going to ignore the 'experts' who claim I will never be 'recovered' ! ! ! I WILL remain 'recovered' if I keep spiritually well via the Big Book's instructions.
# Posted By karen | 1/20/10 9:51 AM
On page 132 of my Big Book it says, "We have recovered, and been given the power to help others".

By working the Twelve Step program as described in the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous and living in the disciplines of Steps 10, 11, and 12 everyday, I am able to remain abstinent from alcohol and all mind-altering substances. The obsession to drink has been removed. My progressive alcoholic illness has been arrested. My alcoholic disease has been put into remission. I have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body.
# Posted By Cameron F. | 1/20/10 12:11 PM
 After eighteen years of trying to "stay away from a drink one day at a time" versus working these principles in all of my affairs for the last five, it is clear to me today what recovered is. I see "recovering" AA's today who claim they have a life second to none, but I would'nt give them a plug nickel for what they have. Recovering is code for  having an excuse for living an angry, (or depressed) dishonest, problematic, unpricipled life. If I claim to be recovered, I have no more excuses. My problems ARE of my own making and I admit this to others. The only "day at a time" action that I take  is turning it over  God each day. If I am having a "bad" day, I am living in the old unrecovered insanity. Being recovered is realizing this insanity and being able to turn my will back over to God .
# Posted By Bill L. | 1/20/10 6:33 PM
I prefer the term recovering versus recovered because recovered some how sounds like I am fixed, However I will be recovering for life.
# Posted By Brenda MacPhee | 1/31/10 10:17 PM
But I am "fixed" and even so has God restored us all to our right minds! I've never talked to anyone suffering from a disease or illness who did not have, as their goal, to recover completely! Except of course, for most alcoholics! There is a line in my Bigger Book that says; "As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he" As I had to concede to my innermost self that I was an alcoholic in order to get well, I must also concede to my innermost self that I am recovered in order to Pass It On! The problem has been removed! Lack of power was my dilemma but today I have power and I call that Power God! God didn't "almost" fix me, He FIXED me! He did for me what I could never have done for myself! I was always "recovering" until I let Him remove the problem! When dealing with alcoholics who still suffer, I draw their attention to me as a person who HAS RECOVERED and that is THE MESSAGE of AA! Not popular but one of hope to the alkie who has, as of yet, not found an answer. Am I perfect? Hardly! Am I recovered? Absolutely! Recovery from alcoholism is not a lifetime process but becoming of maximum service to God and the people about us certainly is!
# Posted By Yvon P. | 2/1/10 9:01 AM
The first promise in the big book says the story of how over 100 men and woman have recovered...our hope is that when this chip of a book is launched on the world, a tide of alcoholic defeated drinkers will seize upon it to follow its suggestions...many we are sure will rise to their feet.(Big Book, page 153). Anyone who is hasn't read the book would not get the recovered part. If you have gone threw the work in the book, then you are recovered.
# Posted By Adam | 7/16/10 9:43 PM
My name is Lupe and I am a recovering neurotic (I'm powerless over my emotions, my emotional and mental disease). Since I found stories of AAs attending meetings, doing service and working with others, but relapsing in drinking after years of abstinence, or dry but living a life of hell, and were taken through BB and 12 steps, I came to admit the previous work I did with the Steps was incomplete and I wasn't recovered. My experience is I didn't have the foundation, the stones and the exact guidelines to make the Step until an audio from a recovered AA member led me through BB.

I must say I am recovering, even when I have a protegè, share my experience, and we're working BB and steps together. But pioneers and this work makes me hang in there, following the clear-cut directions, and BB is full of sentences describing what a recovered member is and looks like, so it's easy to see where I am and where I'm going to. I've came to believe it will be inevitable to be recovered if I follow BB's directions.
# Posted By Lupe P. | 8/22/10 1:02 AM
Hey friends:

Funny, leave it to me to want a specific label to be of fit people worshiping condition..Do I or am I and arent you? They aren't but we are..Like my selfwill run riot checklist, he's screwed up and I'm OK, check! He doesn't get the real program but I do, check! He's spreading the disease and I'm in the solution, check! I'm everything and he's not,check! The alcoholism illness centers in my mind, Huh?

When I ask the Higher Power to direct my thinking here I see myself forever rearranging others to suit myself as the selfish problem creating my confusion. As I pray, It becomes clear that each for themselves will decide if they are recovered or recovering..It is my place to accept them as they are. I am willing to bring emotional security to the situation by my action as a power of example.Or of course I can decide whats best for you and everyone as an example of power in hopes of a bit of instant gratification. Damn selfish self centeredness...

Today I have solved the drink problem, I have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body..

Be good to yourself, share the new found freedom..
# Posted By Gregg G | 9/9/11 4:40 AM